Being a huge Mad Men fan, every time my client is talking about buying a sofa my memory goes back to the episode where Betty Draper installed the fainting couch to the horror of both, her husband and her decorator. I have to say that it was quite a show to see Betty reclining on a large Victorian sofa in front of the fireplace. How fun! Buying a new sofa can be as exciting as stressful even for experienced professionals.
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Now imagine this in real life. I am sure that the last thing you want is to be stuck with an elephant in the room.
Here are the steps before you buy:
1. Start with a room floor plan
Instead of a trip to a furniture store, do yourself a favor, take a measuring tape and write down all the dimensions of your room as well as locations of doors and windows. Don’t forget to show the way the doors open, i.e. to the right or the left.
2. Browse online for styles and sizes.
When you have a piece of paper with the floor plan of your room, you can browse online. But do yourself a favor- stay away from buying a sofa before you go through all the steps. Most of the measurements show width (length) and depth. Some show height. You will be lucky to find inside measurements, such as seat height, arm height, and depth of the seat. An average outside measure of a sofa is 86 inches wide (long), 38 inches deep and 37 inches high. The inside measures are important because you want to have just enough room to lay down or seat more people. If you are petite, 19-21 inside inches depth is enough. But if you are tall, get a
If you are petite, 19-21 inside inches depth is enough. But if you are tall, get a couch that has 22-24 inches inside depth. The same about the height of the sofa back.
Overall Height: While average height is 37 inches, some contemporary sofas are 33-34 inches. If you choose a couch that is 40-44 inches high, which is quite unusual, make sure you have a place against the wall since it will not look good in the middle of the room, floating.
Overall Depth. A deep sofa that is 42-44 inches deep will look better against the wall in a large room with tall ceilings.
3. Your sofa will look differently at home.
Have you ever wondered why your furniture looks so different in a store than in your house? It is simple. Retail store display is a science of its own. Lighting is a major part of a showroom display. It is created by lighting designers for the sole reason to attract your eye to the best feature and create a desire to buy. If you don’t believe me, next time you are at a furniture store, such as Ethan Allen or Restoration Hardware, look up and you will see the whole net of strategically placed lighting systems over your head. Of course, there is music, and other factors to appeal to all six senses.
4. Know the quality of what’s inside your sofa – wood+springs+ foam.
Learn about the construction first. A hardwood frame will last longer than pine lumber. Springs are placed for better support and durability. It can be the eight-way construction or sinuous construction. In less expensive sofas, there could be no springs at all. Also, cushions’ foam varies in density and materials.
5. Find the right upholstery fabric that lasts.
Upholstery fabric determines the price and durability of your couch. The key questions to ask your retailer: Is this material for light, medium or heavy use? Rule of thumb: 100% cotton will fade and wear out quicker. The combination fabric, e.g.: 46% polyester, 36% rayon, 18% acrylic will have a longer life. If you like the fabric, don’t delay the purchase. Here is why: The fabric houses have limited inventory, and your favorite upholstery fabric can be discontinued at any time.
6. Create a checklist consisting of all of the above criteria for your purchase.
It will have the minimum and maximum width of the couch according to your room dimensions as well as your height, desired hardwood, cushions density, spring construction, fabric and legs options. Keep this information with you and start comparative shopping. It will take you some time, but this is the only way to get the result you want and enjoy your couch for a long time.
7. Get a specific manufacturer’s warranty.
Most reputable furniture manufacturers have a warranty. Usually, they are two years for upholstery fabric and four to five years on the frame.
I would love to hear from you. What is your experience of buying a sofa?
Please post your questions here below. I’ll be happy to help you!
Rita says
Hello Marina
I have room for a corner sofa. Was thinking of buying a high grade Italia leather, but not sure whether it is best to buy two 3 seater sofas rather than a corner one. I would like deep seats, high backs, zip cushions, and two reclining seats, in light tan, or taupe colour with soft arm rests rather than rigid. I would like to be able to sometimes lie on the sofa in front of the t.v. I’ve noticed Natuzzi leather ones are quite nice but not many 3 large deep seaters. I have 230 cm on one side of the room under a bay window and 180 cm on the other side at the back of a wall. I am 70 yrs. old and although still quite strong I’m thinking for when I get really old and decrepit as to how I will be able to vacuum underneath on occasions. My existing 3 seater leather sofa has 60 c.m deep seats and 66 cm high backs and two manual reclining seats. Everything these days is electric but I think manual recliners are less likely to go faulty. What do you think? 2 x 3 seaters or a corner one. Thank you. Rita
Freddi says
Hi Marina
I have never posted on anything like this but you seem like the right person to ask. Looking for a sofa. smaller narrower room. SIL is 6’6. I want to find a sofa that does not waste space on arms, overall depth but has an inside sitting depth of at least 24 and width of at least 70″. However, the overall length can not be more than 75-84″ and a depth of no more than 36-37″. So big inside, not on outside of sofa. Any suggestions? Thank you
Marina Klima says
Hi Freddi, sorry for the delayed reply. Anthropologie Mina Sofa has a deep seat of 24″, and there is a 79″ version. https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/mina-two-cushion-sofa?category=sofas-settees-sectionals&color or Clarke sofa https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/clarke-leather-sofa?category=sofas-settees-sectionals&color
The arms are not so big. However, it is rather low in height. I will continue looking for you. What style are you looking for? Modern? Traditional? Also, what is your price range?
Alex says
Hi. My wife and I recently purchased the crate and barrel axis ii sectional and we thought we’d love it after briefly sitting in it at the showroom but I’ve had awful middle back right at spine pain and neck/shoulder pain. I’ve never experienced this before. I feel like I’m going crazy not being able to pinpoint the problem. The seats are pretty firm compared to previous couches. I thought maybe the slopes back combined with the plush down detached pillows? The seat back is also fairly low. We tried plumping the back cushions up with some cheap fiber fill but it’s hard to tell a difference. Does it look like something inherently wrong with an otherwise well reviewed couch?
Also we’re ideally looking for a right arm chaise sectional (when facing towards it) or a traditional sectional if the right side is shorter. 100”-120 wide, 23-25” seat depth, 20-22” seat height, attached or semi attached back. We were hoping for medium to light grey in color.
I don’t even know where to look in Massachusetts. I feel like i scoured local online stores, Jordan’s, etc… It feels as if ill just never find a comfortable couch or don’t even know how to tell what hurt my back and neck. I’m 33 and never had back/neck issues either
Marina Klima says
Hi Alex,
I am so sorry about your experience! I would recommend checking sectionals with Lee Industries- they are pretty much custom with http://www.leeindustries.com/ or Norwalk Furniture https://www.norwalkfurniture.com/ or Elite Leather http://www.eliteleather.com/products/sectionals or Cr Laine https://www.crlaine.com/ I am not sure what is the closest retailer in MA. I would start with Lee Industries since they have more options. Good luck!
Jennifer says
What a useful article! I wonder if you have any innovative ideas for our dilemma — custom ordered a sofa that has ended up having a back too low to comfortably lounge on. Is there anything that can be done? We had extra cushions made but they aren’t firm enough. When sitting, the back of the sofa barely reaches our lower backs — it’s more like a bench! Oops! But we loooove the way it looks and it’s comfortable except for the back. Any ideas to help?! Thanks so much for all your great posts!
Marina Klima says
Hi Jennifer,
Yes, it is a great looking sectional. The only thing that will help a bit is to get an ottoman so that the second person can lay down as well! I am not sure that you will like this reply but there is nothing else that comes to mind.
FIDELIS ASANGALISA says
Can u post a picture of the said product for better advice as to how to extend the back
Necol Short Winpigler says
Couch hunting and stumbled upon your site, which has lots of useful info. However, there’s one subject on which I can find almost no information: sofas and pets. I have large dogs (100 lbs., 54 lbs., and 50 lbs.). They are hard on furniture. I am looking for couches that have a sturdy frame that will hold up to dogs jumping on them. I have one dog that lays on the top of the couch back like a cat, so the frame and cushions on the back must be pretty tough, too. I have no fabric preference, but am looking for something that can resist tears by dog nails and can also resist stains from the dogs grooming themselves while on the furniture. Also, tufted upholstery or upholstery with lots of visible stitching and creases is out, as dog hair is forever collecting in these crevices. Do not need fancy bells and whistles like reclining couches or built in cup holders and storage areas. Just a solid, simple, DURABLE piece of furniture. I am not rich, but it would be absolutely worth it to pay more for a couch that lasts more than 2 years (the average life span of a couch around here)! I’d really appreciate being pointed in the right direction!
PS – keeping pets off the furniture is not a possible solution
Marina Klima says
Hi Necol,
I do have a post on the subject of sofas with pets and many people like it https://mydecoratingtips.com/2016/12/28/want-better-sofa-fabric-choices-last-kids-pets/
You might find it helpful as well. I also recently wrote an article on quality sofa options https://mydecoratingtips.com/2018/10/27/who-makes-the-best-quality-sofa-4-furniture-names/
Please let me know if this helps. In general, check out PERFORMANCE FABRICS, such as Perennials, Revolution Fabrics, Sunbrella
My first choice is Perennials. As far as sofa construction, it surely needs to be 8 ways tied springs, and make sure they are tied here, in America and not come in a box from China. You want hardwood frame and cushions that are 2.0 density foam. Please feel free to post your choices and I will advise you further.
Donna says
Hi Marina. Incredibly informative article! I’m moving into a modern style city apartment (622sf). The living room is a small space with a large window and I’m toiling over what sofa to get try and make the space look high end but functional for entertaining company. I read a suggestion elsewhere that a sectional can make a small space seem grander rather than filling it with “mini” furniture but what do you think? Also, I’m 5’10 and really want a a seat back to comfortably rest my head and i hate feeling low to the floor or like my thighs are too long for the cushion (although that seems to be the trend for modern styles i notice). What height would you suggest? Trying to balance small apartment living with comfort.
Marina Klima says
Hey, Donna
I am very familiar with this layout. Looks like Jersey City. Can you measure the living room up to the kitchen counter and I will figure it out 🙂 Also, is there a door there? can you make more pictures?
Vicky Vancleave says
hi you mentioned the Gus Parkdale sectional in one of your comments
we were looking at purchasing it but have no way to try it where we live
have you seen it in person/sat on it?
we have tried the Jane and it is way to firm
is the Parkdale softer ? (looks to be, it also looks flimsier than the Jane like the cushions will need straightened all the time
thanks
Marina Klima says
Hi Vicky,
Yes, Parkdale is softer than others by Gus Modern. Cushions will need to be straightened from time to time, but not as much as traditional sofas. You can also check out Younger Furniture and ask them about SEMI ATTACHED back cushions. This means that sometimes, manufacturers put back cushions on zippers or saw them permanently. I actually have a sofa like this from Elite Leather. I love it!
Chistine Stack says
Marina, thank you for all this information! So sorry but I am still not getting this. I want to purchase a sofa (Mansfield by Hallagan) outside depth 41″ 38H, inside depth 24″, sofa height is 19″, arm height is 26″ I was also considering the OD 39, H38, inside dept.22″ but I am afraid it may not be deep enough? Surprisingly the 38″H does support my head (which I need, I have back issues). I live in a high-rise building and I just measure the width of my door which is 36″ but when I open the door to measure it is 35 1/2, would both sofa sizes fit?
Also, I want a fabric blend but the one I like is all poly., will that stay nice? What do your think of Crypton fabric?
Thank you for your help!!!
Marina Klima says
Hi Christine,
The sofa that is 38 inch high has to go through the door, which is 35 1/2 inches. When they deliver they turn it around, so your height 38 inches becomes the important factor. If they turn it slightly diagonally it could go through. You have to tell the company and ask them if they will do partial assembling in this case, but they need to know beforehand. How tall are you? 24 inches inside seat is nice if you want to nap, but if you are not so tall your legs might be hanging. Solution- back pillow. I love deep sofas as I nap. OD depth 41 is quite deep, do you have a large room? Is it floating or by the wall? Crypton is great for heavy duty. It comes in all different formulas, from cotton to wool and everything in between. The quality is on a molecular level so it is not a finish. Poly can be good as well, just try it to see if it pills. The cost will be less for poly, of course. See if it is hot, if it pills, what cleaning code is there. The best is W- water cleaning. I hope it helps somewhat. don’t hesitate to write again. We’ll get there, girl 🙂
Jenny says
Our prior sofas/sectionals have had detached bottom and back cushions. The latest one has bottom cushions that slide and need constant readjustment. Prior ones needed constant readjustment of the back cushions. What are the pros/cons of attached and/or semi-attached cushions? And what about one long bottom cushion – what problems can occur? I think I’m ready for a change!
Marina Klima says
Hi Jenny,
I know exactly what you are talking about. All that movement of the cushions can be really annoying. One seat cushions are great in term of minimum movement. The disadvantage is that people don’t want to sit that close to each other sometimes, they kinda want separate space which they think that a separate cushion gives them. It is all perception but this is how we, humans are wired. Also, if one cushion is very dense it tends to jump up on one side if a person sits on another side. I have a one cushion sofa and I love it. It is vintage and it cozy and perfect. But I had it for 20 years. https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/seating/sofas/dialogica-hollywood-regency-sofa-designed-sergio-savarese/id-f_738146/?utm_content=test&gclid=CjwKCAjwo87YBRBgEiwAI1LkqTiLSC58kZ4MMRpg7v_JBOk__MrsPmO8uvRvckC9A33_cr8fA9yGixoCMpAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I also have another sofa with attached cushions-fully attached by Elite Leather, Lulu DK sofa. It is my favorite ever! I live on it. The back cushions are there but they just don’t move. The seat cushions are a problem from day one even though they have hooks and are not supposed to move. Annoying, but I just live with it. Got used to it. I am not sure about your budget, please let me know and I will refer you to a number of sources.
megan says
Hi Marina,
I’ve been belaboring the purchase of a custom sofa for a month now and just stumbled on your very helpful article. My question is with regards to the length and cushion division. We are looking at purchasing a 110″ sofa with 7″ arms (though every measurement can be customized on this thing). We would like to to have the comfy look and feel of sofas with big wide cushions (our current sofa has small individual cushions and the “cracks” are uncomfortable and limiting) but I’ve heard that bench seats, especially of this size, do not hold up. So, I’m thinking we should divide the seat cushion into 2 (48″ wide) and have 4 back cushions at 24″ each. This way 4 people will feel welcome to sit on it, which at 110″ seems reasonable to me. Do you think these dimensions will work and give it the comfy feel I am seeking? Other options are to go to 3 seat back cushions (will that look weird with 2 base cushions?) or expand the width of the couch a little to have wider (25″/26″?) cushions overall. Or we could do 2 back cushions, but I wonder if less people will sit on it if it looks like an oversized loveseat.
Thanks for any help you can provide! I love having options but sometimes it can be bewildering!
Marina Klima says
Hey Megan,
I would go with two + two (2 seat cushions and two back cushions). If this is a custom sofa you can have the back cushions semi-attached with zippers. I would not go for more than 110″ for a sofa. It will not look like oversized loveseat no matter what you do. I think this is a good solution. Lmk if you got this reply. Good luck! Make a picture when it’s done, I really want to see 🙂
tammi says
Thank you so much.
tammi says
I’m so glad I found this article. Thank you so much! Now I just need to find a modern sofa with a seat height over 21 inches that looks great in emerald velvet. Wish me luck!
Marina Klima says
Thank you, Tammi
I did some quick search, Check out One Kings Lane, and Georgia
Rayi Mandari says
Great article! Love it! By the way do you have suggestion or any idea, how to “manipulate” the looks of my sofa? Because i found it too tall for small and tiny living room. How to make it look shorter?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hey Rayi,
Can you post pictures of your current look? This way I can help you better. Thanks
Elizabeth Thompson says
I need some suggestions for sectional sofas. My challenge is I have Fibromyalgia, knee issues and lower back pain. That being said, I have found I want the taller of sectionals I can find. I prefer firm sitting. Do you have additional suggestions on things to look for, in addition to height?
marinaklima says
Hi Elizabeth, I really like Elite leather brand but it’s on a higher price range. They make sofas with attached pillows as well as semi attached. Their construction is great abd lasts for a very, very long time. Also, Lee Industries. You can also use a rectangular bolster for your back, which is not round but rather flat. It looks like a cushion but just longer. What is your style? Modern? Traditiional? What is your price range? I would like to give you better suggestions if I have your preferences. Thank you
Barbara Cole says
Which is more durable for a recliner: 100% polyester OR 78% polyester, 11% polypropylene and 11% cotton?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
In theory a combination of different fibers is more durable because they brake down at a dufferent time. Besides, it should be aestetically more pleasing with some content of cotton, even small amounts.
Omar Chaudhry says
Hi Marina.
Our living room +TV room is 16 feet wide and 20 feet long.
On its one of interior walls there is fixed glass window, looking into the house, and on opposite side there is full glass window giving view of the lawn (exterior ).
Am thinking of having a U-shaped sofa seats. I have tried to make a rough sketch of the same. In my attached sketch C1, C2, etc are cushions, and then in brown color I have marked arm rests, corner table, and center table. In my sketch, I have kept scale of One Box = 6 inches https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c7fe7a3a9d24b42aba2290c46cebb74b2bb92d1694e115a44a900a1ff89f8623.jpg
Please give me your opinion. I would not mind if you totally change it to some better format too.
Thanks in advance.
marinaklima says
Hi Omar,
How many people are using the room? Is this room the only luvubg space? What other fubctuons except for watching TV?
Kristie Shin says
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Kristie Shin says
Found my dream couch but because of the 40″ H, 88″ W and 37″ D combined with 80″ x 32″ entryway, there is no way the sofa will fit. It’s made with a high back because of the option to make any parts reclining. We had decided to have the loveseat face the TV with dual recline and the sofa (all stationary) at a 90 degree angle (needing to look slighty left to watch TV). So, I thought of another option which is where I need an opinion: They also make this style in a sectional, so technically I could buy two sectional loveseat pieces with opposite arms to build a long sofa (56″+ 56″=9.33 ft). The room, which is 20’9″ x 26’8″, is large enough, just curious if it’s going to look odd having 65″ long loveseat (directly facing TV) and a 112″ sofa at a 90 degree angle? See attached picture. I placed my current sofas in a position to demonstrate the furthest ends of new sofa. Entry into the living room is the location where I stood taking the picture. Thanks!
marinaklima says
Hi Kristie,
I understand your point. Things to think about before you the looks and the flow of the room:
If the two love seats are not joined they might slide apart if you want to lay down. You know what I mean? But if they are joined together during the install, you are okay. Another thing you might ask the store is if they can assemble your dream sofa right in your house. Sometimes they do it for a fee. I, personally don’t see anything wrong with a 112 inch sofa and a loveseat at 90 degrees. But I’d love that cushy sofa to stay in place and join together properly. If you don’t use it to lay down, you can even put a small table between the two loveseats, this way it can be used for occasional snacks, etc. Visually this version will break up the length so to say making the room more balanced. Hope it helps.
mandyward67 says
We have a very long living room. My husband wants to get one long couch instead of other chairs. Is 180″ way too long for a couch? I’m ok with it unless it is just a crazy idea.
marinaklima says
Hey girl,
180 inches is a very long sofa, and not made unless special order. Clip the pic of the room, perhaps I can state my case with alternative. Most important question is why he wants it? Can you explain?
mandyward67 says
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This is the living room that we are remodeling. Hard to tell, but the room is 14 ft by almost 30 ft. He wants to build a sectional with lazy boy that has a chaise on either end and is 180″ long so there is plenty of room for when we have parties.
marinaklima says
Okay, then in case of a party and if you have a long sectional with two chaises, that sounds comfy, but…How will your guests communicate with each other if they are all looking one direction? Would you think this layout won’t contribute to much involvement? Consider creating a few sections in the room instead. I’m not sure about the actual activities that you want. For example, it can be a combination of sectional and table and chairs by the window area.
marinaklima says
Mary, it depends on your needs. I understand why an interior designer suggested 78-80 inch sofa. It’s more functional. Two people or even three can sit on it, you can even lay down somewhat if you are not too tall. 69-72 size sofa is more like a love seat. Only two people will sit. You don’t always need end tables and the chair can be placed across or diagonally. A plant can be put on the coffee table, not on the floor, I mean a small flower vase. There are no rules for this. What is the room’s function? When do you use it? How many people? Do you need it to entertain guests or for every day?
Deta says
Hi Marina, struggling to special order sectional but not sure how it will look closing off our bay window. Any suggestions? Also not sure how deep is too deep or uncomfortable for seating, we are between 46′ and 40′ depth. Your help is appreciated.
marinaklima says
Hi Deta,. It would be nice to see the pictures of the room and the sectional in question. The depth 46 inches and 40 inches you meant, right? Not feet? Also, this depth seems to be very deep. Have to see the pictures, please.
Deta says
Hello there thank you for replying! The sofa we are thinking of would go in front of the bay window in our family room and the tv on the wall across from it where the mirror is currently. We are thinking of a 3 seat sofa with a chaise for a total of 4 seats and an ottoman that can be used as extra seating when needed. Please let me know what you think. We are trying to keep the flow open to the backyard and do not want to have a sofa there anymore. We also have neck issues and do not wish to have the tv over the fireplace. Thank you in advance for your opinion!
Deta says
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Deta says
Below is the sofa we would like to fit into our space. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d48256964b7222b9983461319722753ae10e84266cf6968b2a71e24566d150b3.jpg
Marina Klima Goldberg says
hi Deta,
I understand what you want to do. Comfort is a king! However, there are some sectionals that can visually look better with the bay window if the sectional is curved or, at least some part of it. I checked Raymond and Flannigan for you and here is an image I found. I don’t have the room’s dimensions to tell you exactly how and what will fit. This is just an idea
What is the room size? what is the distance from the bay window to the proposed TV wall?
marinaklima says
Hi Deta,
I understand what you want to do. Comfort is a king! However, there are some sectionals that can visually look better with the bay window if the sectional is curved or, at least some part of it. I checked Raymond and Flannigan for you and here is an image I found. I don’t have the room’s dimensions to tell you exactly how and what will fit. This is just an idea
What is the room size? what is the distance from the bay window to the proposed TV wall?
marinaklima says
Here are the sectionals https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a774d95075cde2506698e72d7028248ca609bd158ae7d4e86c9ef404f89993f5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f56f728731b1e0b0b968e137d9f5a57d999a91dd169c7bc79a59111c5d14da0.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1136ce12564d05d719642e1578ab44a81cef73ae09ca98b77f86e5fb8760ed0b.jpg that I found in Raymond and Flannigan – not sure this is the right size or if it’s to your taste. I just think that anything that has any kind of a curve will look better. The last one looks large but maybe they can do it smaller by removing one seat?
Tim J says
Hi Marina,
I was really impressed with your page and the information. It will really help us in finding a sofa for an empty front room.
The room is 250″ by 156″ with a 96″ wide picture window on one narrow side. We would like to use about half the room for a sitting area and are discussing if it would be better to put a sofa in front of the picture window facing into the room or float it in the middle facing the room and essentially providing the dividing line. Is there any hard or fast rule in this situation? We can’t use either of the other walls because of a off center window and a doorway. Any insight is appreciated.
Tim
marinaklima says
Thank you, Tim
Anthony Spencer says
Hi Marina!
First off, excellent advice!
Second, I have ordered a new sofa online for the first time. It has a total height of 33.5 inches and I have doorways 31 inches wide. I was assured by the customer service people on the phone that the total height of the sofa is measured with the legs attached. They said the legs would have to be attached upon delivery.
So, I am hoping that the legs are at least 2.5 inches high, hopefully more, so it will fit. Trying to decide if I should cancel the order or gamble with it. What is your experience with the height of sofa legs?
This is the sofa: https://www.goedekers.com/Coaster-504554.html
Do you think this scenario will end up with a happy ending?
Thank you so much for your advice!
Anthony
marinaklima says
Hi Anthony,
There is no way that the turned bun sofa legs can be less than 3 inches. They are more likely 4 or 4 1/2. They are more likely screwed into the wood frame on premises. I’m sure you can relax about this. It shouldn’t be an issue. The sofa is very pretty and I am excited for your new purchase. Please let me know how it went 🙂
Anthony Spencer says
Update: You were right! The sofa fit just fine in my new apartment! Thank you for easing my mind about this. I am very happy that I found you : )
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Sure thing! I’m glad as well!
marinaklima says
Hi Kami,
Okay, so since the movers are going to turn it around, the height of the sectional is important. How wide is your door? If the opening is 34 inches or more, you’ll be fine with 33 inches or less back height. If this is not possible, find out if the manufacturer can separate the back from the rest of the sofa. Then the movers (delivery people) have to be equipped with the tools and ability to put it all together right in the basement. I hope it helps. Please let me know.
or so says
hello
“f you are petite, 19-21 inside inches depth is enough. But if you are tall, get a couch that has 22-24 inches inside depth. The same about the height of the sofa back”.this means that if i am 5.7 tall i need to get 22-24 for the inside height from seat to top or other?
marinaklima says
The height of the back of the sofa is your personal preference. For example, I am 5.8 and I prefer the back height that is at least 38 inches from the floor to the top. Saying this, I’m also fortunate to have an open floor plan in my living room and wide enough doors to get this sofa into the room. What I’m saying is that if your doors are narrow, you’ll be limited what height goes through the door. So, if the door opening is 34 and the height is 38, the movers have to assemble the sofa in the room and the manufacturer has to ship the sofa in two pieces. Some people are comfortable with the sofs height as low as 32-33 inches, even when they are tall. Then it means that the seat is probably going to be lower. If the seat is lower and a person is older, he/she might have a difficulty getting up. Please feel free to post pictures and continue this discussion when you consider a DEFINITE SOFA.
Thomas Burke says
Not necessarily. When you move a sofa through a doorway, you would stand the sofa on end, and when you go through the doorway, you would angle the sofa so that the top part of the back goes through the door first, then you would rotate it so that the top of the back is already into the next room, and the only thing you would have to worry about is the distance from the bottom of the sofa to the top of the arm rest. Then you would walk it through the rest of the way. A couch that is 38 inches tall would easily fit through a 34 inch doorway.
Jean Herman says
According to this article “an average outside measure of a sofa is 86 inches wide (long), 38 inches deep and 37 inches high.” That is bigger than the standard entry door dimensions in the USA which are width 36″ and 80″ high. How are you supposed to get a standard size sofa through a standard size door? Any advice? I don’t understand.
marinaklima says
Hi Jean, you’ve got a valid point here. When I worked for Ethan Allen this was one of the main questions we’d ask. There are several options. Usually the sofa legs are screw on, so when delivery service comes they put the legs back at a homeowner’s home. If this is not possible, many furniture companies will make the sofa for assembly on site and a professional will put it together. Your main concern is the height of the sofa because they turn it around when they get it into the apartment. So, that’s why there is a term “apartment sofa” where the back height is lower, such as 35 inches, 34 inches or even lower. For more, please read this. Hope it helps http://moving.about.com/od/movingspecialtyitems/f/movingsofa.htm
Jean Herman says
Thank you so much for your very thoughtful reply. It is helpful to have this kind of information BEFORE I go shopping. I will certainly keep it in mind before I fall in love with anything!
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Jean, good luck. It’s my pleasure.
Himali Gandhi says
Hello,
I am trying to buy a sectional but having difficulty with deciding the size and shape. My room is 230″ long and 180″ wide. Would a C shape work better or an L shape? And what should be the dimensions? This sectional would be the center piece of the room. Your input is welcome.
marinaklima says
Hi Himali, can you make pictures of the room? What else goes into the room? Tv? What’s the room function? Is this the main living/family room? I’d like to see pictures of the room from all angles. How many people are using the room?
Himali Gandhi says
Hi Marina,
This is a family room and the only other thing that will be added is TV and coffee table. One end of the room is open to the kitchen. This room is used a lot by our family to watch TV, play games, kids projects and generally hang out.Below are some pictures. The TV will be moved to where you see the couch and the present space will be converted to a book shelf. I also plan to put the TV on floating shelves with some little storage place.
From kitchen side
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f4950acbb57365b7cae07f106243fc7565fcb8df6a926537cc0ea110e63a9fe.jpg
From entrance
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/384faff1d14c3c9d606c85f959c4e30f6c69410ce880491c32840c3baee8900d.jpg
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Himali,
I took a little time because I was trying to answer your question and then was not happy with just an answer. So I finally decided to do a floor plan on Acad. It’s in scale so you can see how things will be looking. I didn’t know all the measurements but it should be close. The most important are the width and length of the room. You can use a sectional with two chaises if you want. Your room is very long and it would be comfortable to use chaises as part of the sectional. Let me know what you think. I’m enclosing the floor plan drawing.
marinaklima says
Hi Himali,
I took a little time because I was trying to answer your question and then was not happy with just an answer. So I finally decided to do a floor plan on Acad. It’s in scale so you can see how things will be looking. I didn’t know all the measurements but it should be close. The most important are the width and length of the room. You can use a sectional with two chaises if you want. Your room is very long and it would be comfortable to use chaises as part of the sectional. Let me know what you think. I’m enclosing the floor plan drawing. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c524c0e59a593dd3c271941a1deb987df0b4353b508441f01460bff44f6d8e2.jpg
Himali Gandhi says
Hi Marina,
Thank you for the detailed reply. This is very close to what I had in my mind. I had almost narrowed down on a sectional with two chaise on the sides. Total length is 150″, with chaises 58″ long and middle part 32″ . Now I just have to narrow down on the floating shelves for TV. Thanks again for the detailed respond. Appreciate it so much 🙂
marinaklima says
Oh, I’m so happy that we think alike! The worst thing for a designer is to confuse a person. You made my day!
Himali Gandhi says
Haha..you made my day as well. I am not a designer but was so happy to see that I could design my room appropriately.
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Himali Gandhi says
Hi Marina,
I wanted to request your input on the color of the sectional as well. I have narrowed it to beige or gray, buy not sure what will work for few years from now. While gray is the in thing these days, I not sure if we will like to have that colored sectional for next 5-10 years. And I also know that I will not be changing it any sooner :). Looking at the pictures, what do you think will be a better choice? Appreciate your inputs.
marinaklima says
Hi Himali,
When something is screaming “the day before yesterday” we’re not happy. For sectional I wouldn’t worry so much about beige or gray being outdated colors. It never happened before in the history of decorating that these colors are outdated. Focus on the quality of the fabric. If you want it to last I have an article right here about the quality of the upholstery fabric https://mydecoratingtips.com/2016/12/28/want-better-fabric-sofa-choices-last-kids-pets/ As an upgrade to the article I included the sources on where to buy and which manufacturers I trust. So, what I’m saying is that TEXTURE is what to think about if you want your sectional to last, color not so much.
Then I’d think about accents, such as pillows to stay on trend if you want.
Ana says
YOU are amazing! Not only do you really know what you’re talking about , but I’ve never seen a blogger who acknowledges posts as consistently, quickly and thoroughly as you. Additionally, you even went well above and beyond in answering Himal’s questions. OMG. You really care. I’m subscribing. <3
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Ana,
I am really happy that you find my blog helpful. Whenever you have a question please do ask. I am glad to serve you.
Jane P says
Thanks for the common sense tips — we’ve been sitting on couches for weeks and can’t seem to find the right one. I’m short so want to go with a 20″ seat depth but it seems that regular [ie, not custom or very high end] stores only have deep seat depth sofas.
do you have any favorite 20″ seat depth sofas and love seats that have clean lines [no fat arms, no skirts] but are comfortable with lumbar support? I know that’s asking a lot but we sit on it every day! This is just soo frustrating.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Jane,
My favorite what you described is youngerfurniture. Well made and modern, clean look. But I’m not sure about your price range. Please let me know so that I could direct you better. Good luck!
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Here is the picture of one of them. It looks like the inside measure is about 20″
Ana says
And again!
Andrew M says
My girlfriend and I recently moved into an apartment that has 27″ doorways, and I’m not sure what I should be looking at in terms of dimensions.
To give a little more perspective to my question, we are looking for a 3-seated couch with a chaise on one end. Would you be able to help?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Andrew,
Congrats on a move! May I ask you about your price range? I love Gus Modern http://gusmodern.com/collections/sectionals/products/parkdale-bi-sectional for quality and they can probably sell it to you as parts and assemble in the apartment. Or Younger Furniture. You can see if they can provide this service and set it up at home. Lazar Industries are also custom kinda. They can also make it in parts. Not sure about your price range…
Andrew M says
Thank you for sending these links!
We are looking between $800-$1200, but can be flexible as well. It is our first time going through this process and would rather have something that will last, than just buying to fill space.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hey Andrew,
Don’t be shy to ask away again when you’re about to decide. I’ll hold your hand 🙂
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Here is the picture of Lazar industries. Any couch that is made in USA in North Carolina they should be able to make in parts and assemble at home.
Ana says
And still!
Ezra says
Hi Im 6’1 buying my first sofa. Do you think these dimensions will accommodate me well?
Width: 80 3/4 ” (205 cm)
Depth: 36 5/8 ” (93 cm)
Seat depth: 22 ” (56 cm)
Seat height: 17 3/4 ” (45 cm)
Height: 31 1/2 ” (80 cm)
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Ezra,
First sofa! How cool! Now, let’s make it right. Please promise not to hesitate to post pictures or ask more questions once I have your ear.
My husband is 6’1 and I’m 5’8″ and we both love our sofa. I was literally lying on it in the store making sure that it works for us. So, the inside length or width is the most important measure for you. My sofa is 74 inches inside and it is perfect for us. It is also 24 inches deep inside measure and that is also perfect. The back of my sofa is 32 inches and the seat height is 16 inches. Okay, I’m probably older than you and it’s a little bit harder for me to get up the seat since it’s a bit lower than usual 17, 18 inches. But 32 inches back is very tall and supportive because the cushions are not high. So, for your height, please see if you are comfortable. It’s personal.
To sum it up:
1. 80 inches width. Is it outside width or inside? What is inside? You’ll be comfortable laying down with 72-74 inside width. But, I’m not sure how you want to use this sofa. Just sitting? Napping? Also, do you have room for a wider (longer) one?
2. Seat depth 22 inches could be a little short for you. Make sure that your legs are not hanging over when you sit on it.
3. Seat height 17 3/4 seem to be okay. Just sit and then stand up and see if you do it effortlessly.
4. Height 31 1/2 … Well, see if your back has enough support for you. This is very personal.
Hope this helps, and if not ask again. Good luck!
Ezra says
I agree with seat depth. I’ve experienced awkward seat depth, and it’s no fun. Anywho here is the address to what I’m considering:
http://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/spr/39132702/
I’m in Tucson and there isn’t a Ikea store in my city, so I can’t test it per se’, however I’m open to other options. Any direction is greatly appreciated.
…also the sofa I posted the address to will most likely find me napping, studying, gaming etc.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
How about Ikea Nockeby 98x38x23 seat depth? Of course, it’s $899. But it looks good. I don’t know if it’s going to fit in your space.
Bhill says
Hi Marina,
This was very helpful. I was wondering when websites list only one height, which are they typically referring to? The outside, seat or inside?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Bhill,
Thank you for kind words. If my article was helpful it makes me do a happy dance 🙂 When there is one height number it is usually the outside measure from the floor to the top of the sofa. Most common height is between 32-40 inches. Some European brands are even lower than 32 but this is not common. What do you mean by the inside height?
Alex says
Thank you for writing such post Marina. Before anyone make decision to get sofa or any furniture online i suggest to read and inform about as many things possible or you will make mistake and spend money to find out soon you not like the color, or sofa dont fit in your room, not combine with other furniture..list goes on. i bought small sectional sofa recently after reading some reviews and tips but still i recommend to anyone who can if possible to find time and choose sofa offline 🙂
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hey Alex,
Thank you for your comment. Just curious, why you would still recommend buying a sofa offline? Many people would appreciate your answer. Thanks again.
Srinija says
Nice article….. I wanted to try chesterfield in my new home. But again I am afraid about the comfort and also my partner wants to have reclining sofa. So I wanted to have one 3 seat recliner and another 3 seat chesterfield with close enough colours. I am afraid about the look of the room after knowing that chesterfield seat is lower than other usual sofas. Can you share your thoughts?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Srinija,
Well, Chesterfield sofa does not have to be low. Here is a link to my friend’s Chesterfields and it is not low at all. her name is Ruth. Please tell her Marina Goldberg from my Decorating Tips in New Jersey sent you. Ruth is amazing and very helpful. http://www.distinctivechesterfields.com/chesterfield-sofas/london-chesterfield-sofa.html Ruth (866) 868-9227
Email
ruth@zaardesigncenter.com
Website
http://www.zaardesigncenter.com
Srinija says
They look great. Thanks for sharing the details.
So as a Designer do you believe that combination of 3 seater recliner W207 * D96 * H104 and chesterfield H75cm*W230cm*D100cm should be fine.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Srinija,
I am glad you found my reply helpful. However, it is just one-sided. I need to see the pictures of the room and all that goes into it so that I could talk about balance in the room. Please post pictures and we’ll go from there. I’ll be happy to help.
Ilene says
Thank you for this informative article. What would be a good eight for a floating sectional in a great room with 10 foot ceilings and has a golf course view. I am between a 36 inch high or a 30 inch sectional. Thank you
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Ilene, of course,36 inches is much more support for your back. However, some European designers manage to make sofas that are as low as 30 inches and still comfortable. But then the seat is usually low. Please post the pictures of both and I’ll tell you. In some floating situations, lower back looks better.
K.L Peterson says
I have a 1930’s 9-foot long sofa that we found when we were first married. We have had it re-upholstered twice and now are considering having it re-down again since the frame is rosewood and we have never seen any sofa as long or wide or tall. It does need new springs, so any re-holstering would need to cover that. We are thinking of using it in our sunroom and want to know what would be the best fabric to use and if re-doing it would be worthwhile.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi, K.L. Peterson, it sounds like you have to practically rebuild the sofa. Foam, springs and fabric is a lot to re-do. For example, just the fabric alone can cost you a small fortune. I have enclosed a chart for yardage of different sofas. So, if your fabric is even $30 a yard 30X20= 600. It is VERY RARE to find a suitable fabric for this price. You can check out some remnants stores. I am very happy with Modern Fabrics http://www.modern-fabrics.com/. They always send samples as well- and their prices are great! Now, the work to upholster will run you between $700-$1,200 depending on what is involved and your local prices. Plus all the foam and springs can run you another chunk of money. I understand that the frame is rosewood and you love this sofa, so it could be not a matter of money here for you. I have a sofa which I reupholstered twice as well. I am not ready to let it go since I love it. Hard decision, my dear…
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Here is the chart for yardage for a sofa
Marci says
Question: I never seem to find the measurement for the seat height of a sofa ( height of seat from floor). Both my husband and I are tall and as we age standing up from our sofa (standard height – nothing special), we are finding it more and more difficult and hard on our knees. We do not want recliners that lift you out of your seat, but would like a sofa and couple of chairs that sit a little higher. What do you suggest?
Marina Klima Goldberg says
You have many options to make the sofa seat higher. If you are ordering a new one, a retailer, such as Ethan Allen (higher end) and Younger furniture (lower end) will provide you with custom options. You will want a high-density foam with springs- 8-way springs in the inside. No feather fill!
If you want to use the existing sofa, risers on the legs will work. But then they will show, so a slip cover is an option. If your legs are a screw on- you can change the legs for a higher option. Depending on the style of the sofa you can change the cushions by ordering new ones from the upholstery shop.
If you shop online, ask the shop about the height of the seat. Bassett Furniture Banbury sofa has a very firm seat and it is 21 inches high, which could be okay for you.
Also, you can explore Elder Luxe website for Stander Assist http://www.elderluxe.com/home-comforts/furniture-and-decor/stander-assist-a-tray/
I hope this helps! If I did not nail it, please come back! I will be glad to do all it takes to get you to the right source. Good luck! P.S. I use Stander Assist for my mom and it is a life saver.
Corrine Ortega says
Yes, very helpful article. I am browsing for couches and sectionals online now. I have a small oddly shaped livingroom due to the house being built in 1947. This livingroom was not designed for modern day entertainment like large flatscreen tvs or sectionals so I am limited with types and sizes of couches I can put in here. I was trying to find a small sectional; like the loveseat sectionals, but even those are too big. So I’m looking to find a 6-6.5 couch with a matching ottomon so it sort of looks like a sectional. Your article made me rethink some choices or mistakes I would have made again. I am measuring, measuring this time so when I am at the furniture store to browse, anything outside those measurements – I’ll keep walking, I dont care how gorgeous or comfy it is.
Elaine says
My couch purchasing habits and my sisters are quite different. In addition, I’m 5’1″, and she’s 5’6″, and all legs! She buys a new couch every few years and it’s quite a trendy one each time. I bought my first couch at age 38, and I still have the same one at age 55! It’s a real classic and I went to many furniture stores before I found the one I love. (mid-century modern) I finally found it at a second hand store and had it reupholstered. She calls it a ghastly old thing, and thinks I’m terribly behind the times! I’m not behind the times – I’m a classic!
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Elaine,
I am very sorry for the delayed reply. I am really busy saving a life- my mother’s life and part of it involves home modifications and thoughtful design for someone in a wheelchair. I hear you about different tastes and habits between you and your sister. Yep, everyone is different. My dad was the war child so for him if something does not have holes, it is NOT be disposed. I would love to see your new couch, I am sure it is beautiful and your sister might be teasing you. If it is a good piece and you love it there is nothing wrong with reupholstering it. In fact, very famous designers do it all the time for their clients. Honestly, I know quite a few. As far as your sister and yourself being so different on height, you can always use back pillows for more comfort. I would love to see the picture of your new couch! Stay in touch:)
Yvonne Grant says
WHY do site not know the difference in a right arm and left arm fainting chaise/sofa/couch? I contact the manufacturer referring to a photo they have published and they contradict the photo. And why are right arm fainting couches hard to find? Thanks!
Kathy says
Thank you for the information. I am struggling to decide what I might buy. 2 years ago. I bought loveseat and couch from a well known furniture store. It was a thin veneer of leather. IT HAS WORN OFF HORRIBLY. I thought it was under warranty, but I guess not for that. REALLY upsetting.
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Hi Kathy, it surprises me that a well known manufacturer does not have warranty for upholstery leather since it was only two years. Do you still have your contract? Is the frame still in good condition? You might want to contact leather refinisher and see what they can do. Another option would be to just change the seat cushions to fabric and keep the back. I assume that the wear is on the cushions mostly. Leather and fabric combinations can be very attractive. Let me know if you need more info. Good luck! P.S. Check out Pinterest for leather/fabric options if you want.
Mary says
Interesting article, but tell me, where can you find a sofa and or sectional where the seat is less than 20 inches deep? My mom is 4′ 9″ ad I cannot find a sofa she fits comfortable in. Thanks
Marina Klima Goldberg says
Mary,
Sorry it took me some time to reply. I was looking through my resources trying to help you with your question. I found some options, like Sofa Bed with Button Tufted in Tan Microfiber and Brown Leatherette Base by Coaster Home Furnishings, which is 19.5 inside width. Your mom can also use lumbar pillow. I hope that helps.
tax coupons says
Wow that was strange. I just wrote an extremely long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t appear. Grrrr… well I’m not
writing all that over again. Regardless, just wanted to
say great blog!
Marina Klima says
thank you very much, anyway! I will take care of the problem. Sorry, and please visit again. Thank you for your time.
Marina Klima says
Thank you, Pete. I am glad you find it useful.
Jean says
This has been very insightful! I’ll be sure to keep your tips in mind when I go on a hunt for a new sofa.
Gwenn says
Very practical tips! Thanks Marina. I missed to consider the tallest person in the house (my husband) in choosing our sofa. Funny! Next year when we change our sofa I will keep that in mind. 🙂
Marina Klima says
I was glad to help
Maya says
Hi!! Thanks for your great advice!
Marina Klima says
Sounds good, Maya. Let me know what questions you’ll have on the way.
Clinton says
Great post Marina and some excellent questions to consider. I never thought to measure the tallest person in the house. Pure brilliance!
Marina Klima says
Thanks, Clinton. My nephew is 6 feet 7 inches. his wife is 5 feet 3 inches. he was hanging from the sofa, then she got the couch with 26 inch depth inside. Made a difference. Now she can use pillows for support but he can really sit.
Sarah A says
Thanks for that really comprehensive guide! Some great tips that are so important yet easy to overlook.
Marina Klima says
I am glad you found this informative, Sarah. I am thrilled I have found your blog as well and I am sure it will be enjoyed by my readers.
Marina Klima says
Daryle,
I am glad you found it helpful. We are working on more articles as we go along and listen to our current clients and prospects’ questions. Stay in touch.
Pete Primeau says
Great Article Marina! Consumers and salespeople will both learn from this article!
Marina Klima says
thank you, Pete. I hope they will.
Rachel says
Very informative and candidly entertaining! Next time im in the market for a new couch I’m keeping this in my back pocket
Marina Klima says
Thank you, Rachel. I am glad you found this informative and fun. Stay tuned for more.